【演讲者及介绍】Ethan Lindenberger伊桑林登伯格倡导科学。【演讲主题】为什么我们需要与关于疫苗的错误信息作斗争00:13To start, I want to share with you guyssomething about my hometown of Norwalk, Ohio. Now, as this video stated, I amfrom Norwalk, which is an extremely small town, about 15,000 people. Andreally, in Norwalk, if you want to do something fun, you go to Walmart or drivehalf an hour to something more interesting. And for Norwalk, Ive lived therefor my entire life, Im a senior at the local public high school, and you know,its something to where I really enjoy my small town. And Im just a normalkid, you know, I lead debate clubs, I volunteer at my church. 作为开头，我想向你们分享我的家乡俄亥俄州诺瓦克市。好了，如前所述，我来自诺瓦克市，那是一个非常小的城镇，大约一万五千的人口数。说真的，在诺瓦克，如果想找些乐子，可以逛逛沃尔玛超市，或是开半个小时车找更有趣的事做。在诺瓦克，我从小到大生长的地方，我就读当地公立高中。你知道，这地方真的很棒，我真的很喜欢我的小镇。我就像一般的孩子，你知道，带领辩论社团，在教堂担任义工。00:43And back in November of 2018, I made asmall Reddit post asking for advice on an issue that I was encountering that Ineeded some clarification on. And this issue, as was stated in theintroduction, was something towards vactions and how I was not immunized againstvarious diseases, including polio and measles, as well as influenza, HPV,hepatitis - the standard vaccine someone my age would receive. Now, thisquestion I asked was simple and pretty strange, because, you know, I wanted toget vacted. Thats kind of weird, but it happened, and then this turnedinto a public story, because I wanted to get vacted. So that was kind ofstrange, and then it blew up more, and I was doing interviews and talking tomore people, and again, Im a normal kid, Im not a scientist, I dont lead anon-profit, I am a pretty casual person, Im wearing a hoodie. 回到 2018 年 11 月时，我在Reddit发布一则贴文希望大家给我一点建议。当时我面临一个议题，需要有人帮我厘清这个议题，如同介绍时所述是有关接种疫苗以及我没有接种各种疫苗的原因，包含小儿麻痹症以及麻疹，还有流感、HPV、肝炎这些我这个年纪的人可能接种的疫苗。好了，我发布的问题很简单也很奇怪。因为，是的，我想要接种疫苗。这有点怪，但事情就这样发生了。接着这件事就变成一个公众议题。就因为我想要接种疫苗。那有点奇怪，而事件继续发酵，我开始接受访问并与许多人谈话。我再重申一次，我是个一般的孩子，不是科学家，没有带领非营利组织，我就是个一般人，我现在甚至穿着连帽衣呢。01:31（Laughter） 笑声01:33Because of this question and this story,because I wanted to get vacted and this interesting situation I was in, Isaw that I quickly was in this public setting of an extremely importantcontroversy and discussion taking place. Now, I saw that the stories andheadlines were pretty accurate for most part, you know, After defyinganti-vax mom, Ohio teen expresses why he got vacted. Pretty accurate,pretty true. And, as stated, I testified in front of a Senate committee, sothere, they said, This teen who self-vacted just ripped his momsanti-vaxer beliefs in front of Congress. OK, I didnt really do that, butthats fine. And certain news outlets took it a little further. Godknows how Im still alive: Teenager, 18, finally gets vacted and attackshis anti-vax parents. 由于我的问题以及这整件事，由于我想接种疫苗以及当时我所处的有趣情势，我发现，我一下就处于发生这极为重要的议题以及争辩的公开场合中。我看见的报导和头条大部分都非常正确。你知道，“挺身对抗反疫苗母亲，俄亥俄州青年解释为什么要接种疫苗。”非常正确，非常真实。而且，我在参议院委员会前作证，于是他们说“这个自己去打疫苗的年轻人，在国会前粉碎他妈妈反对打疫苗的信念。”好，我并没有真的那样做，不过没关系。而且某些新闻扯得更远：“天晓得我怎么还活着：这个 18 岁的年轻人终于接种疫苗并抨击他反疫苗的父母。”02:20So I did not attack my parents, thats not accurateat all. And you know, really, my story was more about controversy. It was abouthow my mom was bad and I was good, and I was ripping her a new one. Not true.Not what was happening. I never was rude towards my mother, and even in publicsettings where I expressed how her beliefs were misinformed, I said that shewas a loving mother, and thats important to understand. 我才没有抨击父母那报导根本不确实，那真的将我的故事报导成争议，像是我妈很坏以及我很善良，而且我对她展开严厉的批判。这些都不是真的，这些都没有发生。我从来不对我妈不礼貌，甚至在公众场合我解释她的理念是被误导时，我会强调，重要的是一定要了解，她是个慈爱的妈妈02:44Because a lot of people, I think, in thescientific community that understand why vaccines are so important, can reallybe confused by someone who would not vacte. Really, we can compare it tosomeone not taking their child to the ER. Thats a very dangerous situation tobe in and it shows some lack of empathy towards your children in some regards.And really, I can understand that, I can. But my mom, she was misinformed andmisled by sources that convinced her that if she was a loving parent, shewouldnt vacte. 因为很多人，我认为身处科学界中的人了解疫苗的重要性，会对不愿接种疫苗的人不解。确实，这就像有人拒绝送小朋友去急诊室，身处在这种环境之下非常危险。这也显示，在某些层面少了对孩子的那份同理心。说真的，我能明白这些，我可以。但是我妈受到一些消息误导，这些消息说服她慈爱的父母是不会让孩子接种疫苗的。03:11Now, when I encountered this and I talkedto my mom, it didnt obviously go well at first, because I was wanting to dosomething that she thought would either cause autism or maim me for the rest ofmy life, and I said I wanted to do this - didnt really fly, didnt really gowell. But the thing that I found interesting was that when I had started to getinto this circumstance, do these interviews, there was one question I proposed.Wasnt a positive one: What in the world have I gotten myself into? Thats whatI asked constantly, because, again, I am not an expert, I am a normal kid, andnow Im talking to CNN and Fox News about a scientific discussion that really,should I be facilitating, should I be commenting on? And a lot of people